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Dave, as to your point of reparations being promised and not paid I have to say I'm all for them NOT being paid. Why should the taxpayers of today be
forced to pay for the misdeeds of others. This is a problem with me right now, as the Canadian government is in the process of laying out a formal
apology and some reparations to "Chinese Canadians" and their decendants who were forced to pay a head tax to come into Canada back in the late 1800's
up through the early 1900's. I take issue with this because while the law that required this head tax was racist, it wasn't put in place or enforced
by people who are still around. (If they are around they're old as fuck) I haven't heard one good argument towards this. I'm even against the
official apology, because in essence it is the Canada of today apologizing for the Canada of yesterday. We aren't responsible for what happened, so
why are we apologizing for it? All it does is stir up more problems in an already unstable population.
As for black reparations in the US, ever seen the skit Dave Chappelle did on that? While satire, it did hold a lot of truth. A lot of that money
would be wasted on stupidity.
I don't condone things that were done in the past, and will be the first to admit they were racist acts that are morally reprehensible.
Will I apologize for said acts? Not a chance in hell. I won't apologize or pay for something that was done in the past.
Minor Threat's "Guilty of Being White" has stuck with me since the first time I heard it many years ago.
‘Do you know what a love letter is? It’s a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.’
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DaveMoral
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I hate that song, and I think Ian MacKaye is a turd. First off.
As for reparations.... the government and the society of today was built upon the legacy of the government and society of the era in which
institutional racism was legislated. Do "we", white society that is, bear a responsibility to the descendants of the victims of such policies... hell
yeah we do. What form that should take I can't tell you, what I can tell is that there is a reason the populations of our respective countries are
segregated to this day... especially along economic lines and those lines are disproportionately drawn along racial lines.
Neither you, nor I, or any other individual white skinned person should be running around apologizing for what white people did a little over a
century ago.... or for that matter, 50 years ago. I'm not a huge believer in the notion of inherited sin. What I'm getting at is that our society as a
whole and our countries do bear a responsibility to the descendants of those previously tyrannized for our countries' and society's benefit because
the descendants do bear the legacy of their ancestors.
I'm sure we'll ultimately have to agree to disagree, and at the end of the day I'm quite certain we're not that different. But I see some of your
attitudes regarding immigration and language barries, as well as ethnic identities and national citizenship to be somewhat bigoted and that shit just
strikes me as wrong and back asswards. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you're wrong.... and maybe we're both a little wrong. We're all just working stiffs
trying to make our way in a world that seems set against us, regardless of language or ethnicity. Maybe I'm a bleeding heart.... God only knows.
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We're all just working stiffs trying to make our way in a world that seems set against us,
well put Dave
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Discipline
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| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
We're all just working stiffs trying to make our way in a world that seems set against us,
well put Dave |
Agreed. Once again I'm proud that the folks here actually have discussions, rather than breaking down into pointless name calling.
‘Do you know what a love letter is? It’s a bullet from a fucking gun. Straight through your heart.’
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DaveMoral
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Discipline
| Quote: | Originally posted by juandiablo
We're all just working stiffs trying to make our way in a world that seems set against us,
well put Dave |
Agreed. Once again I'm proud that the folks here actually have discussions, rather than breaking down into pointless name calling.
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Me too. Any other forum and I swear shit would have hit the fan.
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