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[*] posted on 7-9-2005 at 07:14 PM
tonight on IFC


new documentary on punk by don letts
looks pretty good
ima check this shit out




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[*] posted on 7-9-2005 at 07:57 PM


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[*] posted on 7-9-2005 at 08:22 PM


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[*] posted on 7-10-2005 at 12:11 AM


Wish I had that channel still.



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[*] posted on 7-10-2005 at 04:09 PM


what's IFC?
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[*] posted on 7-10-2005 at 07:09 PM


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IFC = Independent Film Channel

This documentary was pretty good and featured some cool things that differentiated it from most punk documentaries I've seen.

1. It's the only documentary I've seen that implied that bands like Talking Heads and Blondie weren't really punk bands. They explained how the term "punk" was just becoming a catch-all phrase that the mainstream media was using to describe any new non-mainstream music at the time, especially the bands that were regularly featured at CBGB's at the time.

2. The documentary didn't conveniently forget the years between 1980 and 1992. In addition to the standard bands that always get mentioned (Ramones, Blondie, Talking Heads, etc.) in these documentaries, they also talked about such bands as Black Flag, Bad Brains, the Dead Kennedys, Agnostic Front, and Minor Threat.

3. In addition to the standard interviewees like Jello Biafra and Henry Rollins, there were also interviews with folks like Daryl Jenifer, Pat Smear, Roger Miret, Kieth Morris, and Ray Cappo.

4. It implied that bands like Nirvana and Green Day weren't/aren't really punk bands. While they were showing clips of those bands, it had audio of Jello speaking the emergence of "punk-influenced rock bands", which is also my opinion of those types of bands.

On the minus side, they spent too much time covering music and events prior to 1977. It was cool that they were talking about bands like MC5 and the Stooges, but they probably should have left all the stuff about hippies, anti-Vietnom war protests, Velvet Underground, and Andy Warhol on the cutting room floor (or in a separate documentary) and replaced it with the tons of cool shit that was going on in the 80s.
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[*] posted on 7-10-2005 at 07:51 PM


i thought it was ok at best
nothing i havent seen before

ray cappo?
come on now

henry did pretty well with his part i thought
so did biafra and roger

i agree with what dan said




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[*] posted on 7-10-2005 at 10:43 PM


sounds interesting, alas i don't have cable :(



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[*] posted on 7-11-2005 at 10:25 AM


A bunch of us were watching this at Jimmy and Jefferson's. The channel was messing up so it kept getting scrambled and then being OK, and Mike McCarthy wouldn't shut up about the Clash, but we managed to follow it.

I can take a bunch of issues with it but overall it was pretty decent, I thought, compared to most movies and books of that kind. Definitely hit on more early DIY bands than the usual.

Like that video on Greatest Riffs, it reminded me that I badly want to see ALL of the footage that exists of the Bad Brains, without editing or commentary.




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[*] posted on 7-11-2005 at 10:38 AM


anybody tape this?
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[*] posted on 7-12-2005 at 04:45 PM


I thought it was pretty cool, but there was some shit I thought they skipped and shouldn't have. Like they mentioned how Punk influenced Hip Hop, but they didn't say anything about 2 Tone, Oi or even Discharge for that matter.
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