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[*] posted on 11-18-2004 at 03:35 PM


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man.. that is fucking ridiculas. Theres been 14 bids on it too. Stupid fucking people, maybe the virgin mary will show up on the toilet paper next time i wipe my ass. Bidding will start at 20, 000.


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[*] posted on 11-22-2004 at 10:10 AM


Dear all, I'd like to clear up any misunderstandings and make it abundantly clear that nowhere in the whole rant did I say "Hardcore kids, don't fuck christian chicks." On the contrary!

VIRGINIA - ASSISTANT TO HEAD HONCHO
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"My job at Facedown is: Christian store sales, shipping/receiving, inventory,
ordering supplies, record keeper, mailorder room manager, street team, E-Team, and taking care of the baby doggies
My hobbies / Interests outside of work are: Photography, Movies, Quilting, scrapbooking, and gardening
Favorite Movie(s): 13 Going on 30!!!, Cheaper by the Dozen, Spiderman 1-2, The Lord of the Rings 1-3, The Wedding Singer
Record?s I?m listening to lately: Nightwish, Wedding Singer soundtrack Vol 1 & 2, Nora Jones, Shockwave, Jesus Wept
The Best show I ever attended was: Bon Jovi in Thailand 1993, Shocktober 2001, NIV's last US show Aug. 30th 2002, Linkin Park / POD - LA - Mar. 04, and THE BEST ONE OF ALL- NIGHTWISH IN ANAHEIM AND IN HOLLYWOOD '04!!!!MAN WHAT A SHOW!"

I'd hit it..............!!!!!!!!!!!!




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[*] posted on 11-22-2004 at 12:54 PM


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I'd hit it..............!!!!!!!!!!!!

...and then I'd burn her record collection.









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[*] posted on 11-22-2004 at 03:08 PM


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I'd hit it..............!!!!!!!!!!!!

...and then I'd burn her record collection.


I agree with both sentiments.




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[*] posted on 11-22-2004 at 11:49 PM


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[*] posted on 11-23-2004 at 06:40 AM


Here's one for Mr. Boycott, don't know if you've already seen it.

http://www.jesusisacunt.com/




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[*] posted on 11-23-2004 at 07:04 AM


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that particular jesus needs to wash his mouth with soap....!!!!!!




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[*] posted on 12-4-2004 at 06:35 AM


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[quote="Colin Tappe"]Okay, bottom line, god or not, there are a few key factors to take into account here:

1) The distribution issue. I think it's fucking disgusting that bible stores carry, say, a Comeback Kid CD, but not a Champion CD solely based on the label the band is on and the band labelling themselves a "christian" band. You may not think this is a big deal, but the principle of it is beyond AIDS. Imagine having to go to one store that only stocks straight edge hardcore, and having to go to another store that stocks non-edge hardcore. Essentially, this gives Christian bands a distinct advantage over non-Christian bands. This isn't even taking into account churches that'll let Christian bands play and not secular hardcore bands. Regardless of your beliefs there's no way that you can justify this. My verdict: if a non-secular band has seperate advantages and priveledges, they shouldn't be treated equal. In other words, love the fuck out of NIV, but don't call 'em punk, 'cause that shit has nothing to do with my punk rock.

2) Censorship. Facedown records, for instance, won't sign a band who cusses in their songs. I'm not saying you HAVE to cuss to be a punk band, but I refuse to believe that this has never been an issue with a band on a Christian label. That is to say, a song writter's been too chickenshit to use the words they'd like to use out of fear of the label disapproving. Again, I'm not saying this DEFINATELY happens, 'cause for all I know it's just a coincidence that these bands don't use swear words in their lyrics, but I can't help but wonder.

3) Historicity. Looking beyond your personal religious convictions and music taste, look at every band mentioned in this thread. If you removed their existance from the history of hardcore completely, would it matter at all? Granted, you could say the same for 95% of hardcore bands, but like, imagining the history of punk without people like Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Cro-Mags, even less earth shattering groups like Sheer Terror, Rites of Spring, or hell, even someone like Earth Crisis or Hatebreed. The bottom line here is that there has never been any truly historically significant Christian hardcore band. Think about it: not one. That has to tell you something, if in the approx. 25 years of hardcore as a viable genre, not one really important band has fallen under the Christian label. Do you REALLY think that's gonna change with Comeback Kid or Zao?

So those are the facts, plain as the nose on your face, why Christian hardcore is stupid. I'm not EVEN gonna get into the ideas of a built in audiences, the sheer inappropriateness of discussing something as important and deeply personal as religious convictions within the punk idiom, the generally confused content of most of those band's lyrics, the inherantly contradictory nature of religion and punk, the fact that the very nature of "Christian hardcore" exists as an ALTERNATIVE TO, and not something IN CONJUNCTION WITH hardcore OR the fact that those bands just flat out fucking suck and will never be more than the safe watered down PG versions of the real thing.

I respect people's religious beliefs. I think the idea of religion is interesting. Friends, family, fellow man, believe in what you will, but I refuse to respect something whose very nature shits on something I hold dear. I'm not talking about Christianity here, I'm talking about Christian hardcore. The fact that anyone takes these bands seriously just makes hardcore look like a fucking joke.




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[*] posted on 12-4-2004 at 03:41 PM


Nice post. I like that one.



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[*] posted on 12-10-2004 at 03:08 AM


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Dear all, I'd like to clear up any misunderstandings and make it abundantly clear that nowhere in the whole rant did I say "Hardcore kids, don't fuck christian chicks." On the contrary!

VIRGINIA - ASSISTANT TO HEAD HONCHO
http://server2.uploadit.org/files/kvalen-Facedown001.jpg
"My job at Facedown is: Christian store sales, shipping/receiving, inventory,
ordering supplies, record keeper, mailorder room manager, street team, E-Team, and taking care of the baby doggies
My hobbies / Interests outside of work are: Photography, Movies, Quilting, scrapbooking, and gardening
Favorite Movie(s): 13 Going on 30!!!, Cheaper by the Dozen, Spiderman 1-2, The Lord of the Rings 1-3, The Wedding Singer
Record?s I?m listening to lately: Nightwish, Wedding Singer soundtrack Vol 1 & 2, Nora Jones, Shockwave, Jesus Wept
The Best show I ever attended was: Bon Jovi in Thailand 1993, Shocktober 2001, NIV's last US show Aug. 30th 2002, Linkin Park / POD - LA - Mar. 04, and THE BEST ONE OF ALL- NIGHTWISH IN ANAHEIM AND IN HOLLYWOOD '04!!!!MAN WHAT A SHOW!"

I'd hit it..............!!!!!!!!!!!!


And with any luck her hubby Jason would smack the shit out you.
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[*] posted on 12-10-2004 at 03:37 AM


hahaha

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[*] posted on 12-10-2004 at 03:57 AM


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And with any luck her hubby Jason would smack the shit out you.

That wouldn't be very Christian of him, now would it?




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[*] posted on 12-13-2004 at 05:54 AM


LOL OMG, this is from Netscape:

The Bible's Top 5 Ways to Get a Wife

2. Marry a prostitute.
"When the Lord first spoke through Hosea, the Lord said to Hosea, "Go, take for yourself a wife of whoredom and have children of whoredom, for the land commits great whoredom by forsaking the Lord. So he went and took Gomer daughter of Diblaim, and she conceived and bore him a son."
--Hosea 1:2-3


Go, take for yourself a wife of whoredom------!!! Awesome...




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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?




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[*] posted on 12-15-2004 at 09:03 PM


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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?


I like this guy!




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[*] posted on 12-16-2004 at 12:49 AM


WTF?



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[*] posted on 12-16-2004 at 11:13 AM


dudes stay off teh fucking crack....
lets talk about hot christian chicks instead....
theres this place down the street where all the christian kids come and regroup from all over the us before heading to mexico to do that mercy work, whatever the fuck its called...
and the girls are HOTTIES!
dude yeah man, i get a boner just looking at crosses now.
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[*] posted on 12-16-2004 at 01:16 PM


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dudes stay off teh fucking crack....
lets talk about hot christian chicks instead....
theres this place down the street where all the christian kids come and regroup from all over the us before heading to mexico to do that mercy work, whatever the fuck its called...
and the girls are HOTTIES!
dude yeah man, i get a boner just looking at crosses now.


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[*] posted on 1-13-2005 at 08:46 AM


Evolutionists say that we came from chimpanzees. It says this in every Evolution textbook too! Aren't they dumb?

http://www.truechristian.com/img/kids/evoskull.jpg

Evolutionists say that dinosaurs were probably killed by a meteor 65 million years ago, even though it is clearly shown that in the Dark Ages, (when Christians ruled the world), that on old pottery and paintings that they were called dragons and knights killed them. Scientists make false bones and sketches of dinosaurs (or dragons) to not like like the dragons that were draw in the Dark Ages. They did this to try to trick us into thinking that dinosaurs aren't actually dragons from that time. Aren't they dumb?

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[*] posted on 1-29-2005 at 09:52 PM


I agree totally on BCH..I was tricked into going to a C.H. show a few months back and the singer from one of the bands told everybody to close there eyes and raise there hands if they were christians...Me I just sat there with my friends and watched as everybody closed there eyes and raised there hands...After the show we were followed in the parking lot to my friends car, and the guy handed us a bunch of pamphlets and papers and preached to us....
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I agree totally on BCH..I was tricked into going to a C.H. show a few months back and the singer from one of the bands told everybody to close there eyes and raise there hands if they were christians...Me I just sat there with my friends and watched as everybody closed there eyes and raised there hands...After the show we were followed in the parking lot to my friends car, and the guy handed us a bunch of pamphlets and papers and preached to us....



See that kind of shit should never happen, but I definitely don't hold a grudge against non-preachy christian hardcore bands.




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[*] posted on 2-1-2005 at 09:25 PM


Religion of any kind has no place in hardcore. Hardcore is about freedom and being yourself. Religion allows neither.



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[*] posted on 2-1-2005 at 09:28 PM


Do edge kids have freedom to do drugs?



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[*] posted on 2-2-2005 at 12:48 PM


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Do edge kids have freedom to do drugs?
What kind of idiotic question is that? First of all, what the fuck does it have to do with this thread topic? Secondly, just like anybody else, SxE kids can do hatever the fuck they want. Maybe if they're running with some kind of thug crew they might get their ass beat by the kids who feel like they were betrayed (which I think is fucking stupid), but aside from that the only thing that would happen to them is that they wouldn't be SxE anymore. It's not a cult that you can never leave, kids break their edge all the time.



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[*] posted on 2-2-2005 at 02:04 PM


...a rhetorical one

Christianity isn't a cult that you can't leave. For many people, the only thing keeping them Christian is a feeling, a belief system. Many people that were Christian when they were younger change as they grow older, and decide to stop practicing.

If you do drugs, you're not edge anymore.
If you decide to stop following Christianity, you're not Christian anymore

I say, kick preachy bands out of hardcore. I don't want some kid in my face flashing x's and telling me how straight his edge is anymore than I want someone telling me to believe in jesus.




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